Ep #52: Grief, Healing, and The Power of Resilience with Dr. Neeta Bhushan

Dr. Neeta Bhushan is a bestselling author, speaker, investor, advocate, serial entrepreneur, wife, and mom to two kids. She is also the founder of The Brave Table Podcast, co-founder of The Dharma Institute, and founder of the Global Grit Institute, whose mission is to help people overcome their biggest internal challenges so they can better impact the world around them. She has an amazing and inspiring story of being orphaned at just 19 years old and becoming the caretaker to her younger brother, which started her path to emotional resilience and healing that she now shares with the world.

Get comfortable and listen in as Neeta shares her journey to resilience, including learning to heal from the loss of her parents and brother, as well as how her failed marriage was a turning point in her life that led her to where she is today. We also talk about the importance of resilience, what it means to be brave, and how to be present for someone battling grief without losing yourself in the process.

What You’ll Learn:

  • How Neeta’s unique childhood helped to shape who she is today.

  • The turning point that led her to leave her career and start a new life.

  • How she has melded Eastern and Western philosophies to create a truly unique process to resilience.

  • What it means to be resilient and brave.

  • How to believe in yourself when faced with obstacles.

  • What inspired The Brave Table.

Ideas Worth Sharing:

“Community has been such a through-line in my life.” - Dr. Neeta Bhushan

“My association with grit has really been to grow, reveal, innovate, and transform.” - Dr. Neeta Bhushan

“Having that conviction about what you’re writing is so important.” - Dr. Neeta Bhushan

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Transcript:

Molly Dare 0:07

I am joined today by Dr. Neeta Bhushan, who is a best selling author, speaker, investor, emotional health advocate and serial entrepreneur, host of the brave table podcast, founder of the global grit Institute, co founder of the Dharma Coaching Institute, three time author, wife and mom of two kids, I need to take a breath. Well, Dr. Neeta, thank you for joining me today.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 0:36

Oh, thank you so much for having me, Molly. It's good to be here.

Molly Dare 0:40

Absolutely, You know, I was following you on social media, I really love your posts. I really love everything that you're about, I'm really into being conscious about who I'm following these days, and what I'm allowing to go into my brain and the you know, the inspiration and motivation that I need. Because you know, social media can get tricky sometimes. And even when you don't even realize it. It can get tricky with the people that you follow and what messages you're receiving, and it can change your whole day.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 1:07

Totally. Thank you.

Molly Dare 1:10

Thank you for being inspirational and motivational, because I believe I do believe the world needs more of that. But before we get into everything that you're doing, and as you can see, everybody the list is long. But I would love to hear a little bit about you tell us a little bit about young Neeta before she got into all these amazing things.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 1:27

Yeah, I love that question so much. Well, I have everything started. For me back in Chicago, born of immigrant parents, my father was from India, my mom is from the Philippines. And I think some of the themes and the through line for me, I was the oldest and so oldest of three. And I feel like for us, it was all about, you know, kind of really living up to our parents expectations. And so for me, my childhood really was marked by a lot of grit, lots of resilience, I think it's kind of, you know, evident to the work that I do today, I had to grow up really early. And so I had a very unique upbringing in childhood, where, on the one hand, you know, before I was 10, I was dancing and, you know, doing all of the cultural things, Indian classical dance on the weekends, Filipino dance troupe Hawaiian dance, so very well versed in dance. And then also, my parents instilled this kind of educational drive for success. And at 10 years old, I became a caretaker to my mom who got diagnosed with breast cancer. And that's really when my initiation I guess, to life events would shift. And it was a lot of caretaking. And being in the hospital, she battled my mom battled cancer for about six years. And so, you know, being that immigrant first generation, there was a lot of, you know, in the beginning shame around it, because this was at a time where not really people were getting breast cancer yet, or they were, but maybe they weren't really talking about it as much. My father didn't really have much support as an Indian father who was strict. And so there was just kind of a lot of unsureness in that sense of like, what's going to happen and this uncertainty and so, so I had to step up as like leader of the home, learned how to cook, learn how to support and then we did lose her when I was 16. And so really, I had lots of trauma then occur throughout this period of 10 through 19. Because then, after my mom would pass my I lost my middle brother of an asthma attack. And this was I was a senior in high school. So as a year after my, my, my, my mother died. And then two years after that, my father would get diagnosed with a rare lung disease. He was a smoker. But so he was he was diagnosed and only had nine to 10 months to live. And he lived up until 10 months later and died just before my 20th birthday. So at 19 I was orphaned and I had a younger brother who was five years younger than me that I took care of. And so that began my journey of really the the mental resilience, the emotional resilience that I talked about, and the drive because my coping mechanism when I entered my 20s was educational drive success, burying myself in work burying myself in accolades, achievements, because I had a lot of grief to grieve and in many ways I didn't know how to cope and I coped. Through interesting male relationships because I didn't want to lose anybody that was my home name, I was afraid of being abandoned. And I was afraid of being alone. And I knew what the hustle was I at times, you know, when my mom was in the hospital, I worked three jobs. So I knew how to build a business in my 20s, which kind of offered me some early success and some of my other businesses yet, and it's, it's made me everything I am today. But in that period of time, from you know, 20s, as I embarked on this journey of, you know, this, I guess, this hopelessness, time that I felt, and I was very much in, I was, of course, taken care of, by many extended family members and friends and community has been such a through line through my life, and of course, in how I show up now, and, and yeah, I wouldn't get my second or next initiation until I met the relationship that would completely alter and change my world, my life, which was my first marriage. And leaving that at the end of my 20s launched another period for me to finally come back to myself finally, start the process of healing. Finally, start the process of even grieving, grieving my childhood grieving what was grieving. This, you know, incredible, lucrative, professional life that I built up until that point, I became a cosmetic dentist, and really starting to know who i i was who little Neeta though was and who little Neeta, the continued continues to become in this, you know, era. And so here we are,

Molly Dare 6:48

Wow, there's so much to touch on there. I would love to ask you, you know, during this stage of grief, and a lot of people, you know, have have dealt with loss and grief and all people who are listening, what is something that or something that some one could have helped with, or said or done that you think would have been helpful during that time? I know that I'm always thinking when I have a friend battling cancer or losses, how can I help be there for them in a way that they'll receive it and feel it?

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 7:21

Oh, yeah, such a great question. Because there's, that's a question that I get asked so much. I mean, the what the things that you don't want to say, and the things that you do?

Molly Dare 7:29

I want to know, both right? You want to know what we should never say? All good intended, and sometimes it just doesn't land the right way.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 7:39

Yeah, you know, I, I kind of joke around about this now. Because, you know, Grief can be so heavy and grief can be so dark and hard. And I think as a teenager, all I wanted to do was fit in, you know, your your teenager, your female, I was in the city of Chicago, huge melting pot, I was a mixed, you know, culture, mixed religion, mix a lot of things, but I was also in the city. So a lot of my friends were, you know, black Hispanic, it really not people looking like me. And so I really wanted to totally meld and merge. And people were dying all around me, my family, my immediate family. And so, for me, it was kind of like, this sense of support that, usually now when I'm talking on panels, podcasts, or even shows lectures, the number one thing is not making somebody feel like they're an outcast, even if you don't really or even if you can't really empathize with them, it's it's just, I feel like silence can be really comforting. And just knowing putting your hand over your heart and saying, I see you, I honor you. And I know this is such a difficult time. Those words aren't really, you know, taught. I think what happened a lot when I was younger is, you know, teenagers don't know what to say to other teenagers, especially when their brothers died suddenly. And so they change the subject and we talk about like gossip or, you know, the latest things that were on TV at the time, Melrose Place, and you know, some of the things that we were doing at that time, which was comforting to a point, but many times I did feel isolated. And I felt like nobody really got and understood who I was. And some of the things that I wished was, you know, like, I see you, I honor you and I know this is hard. And if you need anything, you know, please don't hesitate or I am going to be there for you no matter what, because there were certain friends who I thought were really close and they took the grief on themselves. And that's what you don't want to do is like you want to stay strong for your friends and family. You also don't want to break down because they need you so much and they they need you to be strong as well. They need you to be that pillar of support. And so Now, you know, into this season of my life. And as we of course get older, and we have aging parents and things like that, and grief has, you know, various different forms and waves. And it's not that if you lost somebody 2-3-4 years ago, there's not really times where you know, you're just going to completely forget, because it'll, it'll come up in conversation, it'll come up during this podcast, you know, and to allow yourself to sit in the discomfort of what that brings up to you. Because I think for many people, it brings up their own personal stuff. And many times it's projected to the person who is going through the loss. So to be able to check in with yourself, what are you okay with talking about and not talking about? And, and if this is a friend of yours to say, hey, what was it like to grow up with, you know, your mom, or your dad or your brother or whoever the last, because I think keeping those memories alive is so important. And even if it's somebody that isn't as close to you, but you want to know how to even engage in that sort of dialogue, ask them about that loved one that passed away, because I think that's the that could be, you know, bridging the gap of giving the other person permission, that it's okay that they can trust you with whatever it is that wants to surface at the moment.

Molly Dare 11:33

Incredibly helpful. Thank you so much. I think that would resonate with a lot of people. The other thing that you discussed was, and you kind of glossed over quickly, but that you were a cosmetic dentist before this, you know, you were a very successful cosmetic dentist, you left that large cosmetic dental practice to transform smiles from the inside out, right? And what what led you to that moment, I know a lot of people are also kind of going through that shift in career right now because of the pandemic and other things that have just opened up in them. A lot of people are having that moment. Like, I really want to start a life that I feel really passionate about instead of just you know, working for the dollar as a lot of people do. Tell me a little bit about that journey and that decision to leave, you know, something that was comfortable to explore something a little bit further.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 12:23

Oh, yes, yes. So when I said I had a couple of initiations growing up, you know, these are life initiations, right. I mean, some of you might think of this metaphorically, when you were in college and the initiation at your fraternity or sorority. And I think in our trajectory of life, we all get these initiations, we all get these callings, in these callings, whether it's a failed relationship, failed business, a failed friendship, failed business partnership, failed test even. And, you know, it's up to us to see it as a calling into our next evolution. And for me, that was my failed marriage. You know, before that I mentioned, literally, I was just on this like, go go go mode, I wanted to get out of this kind of turmoil in this thick, cloudy cover of grief. And so all I did was bury myself in academics and academia success from what it looked like as success from the outside. But I never had done any internal work, aside from like talk therapy when I was younger, to cope with a lot of the things that I was going through. And that manifested in a lot of the things that I was able to do successfully, like build, you know, seven figure practice wasn't even 30 At the time, was one of the first in my class to actually own a practice had, you know, 15, like from doctors and surgeons, and team members in this incredible practice in the city suburbs of Chicago, the suburban outskirts of Chicago. It was great. And I knew that after that big awakening, the journey back to myself was also revealing. And it was also revealing that I wasn't happy. I wanted to discover who I was at my core. Yes, I was really good at making people smile, because that's what I would doing when I was a child when my mom was in and out of the hospital. And we were entertaining the nurses. So I knew that that was my core gift. I knew that that was my superpower was connection because I had to keep the peace when there was all of this turmoil going around me when between the ages of 10 and 19. So I knew how to do that really well. And of course, it would naturally be a setting as a nurturer to be a cosmetic dentist and help people you know, transform what they're not happy about. And so really honing in into those deeper layers. I knew that there was is a combination of psychology and really being able to bring out some of the things that I think I needed to also see in myself and heal in myself, you know, the little inner child that I saw in every single patient that walks through my door of why they wanted to get some big procedure done, why they wanted to transform the external parts of their smile. And so that really led to exploring as an angel investor, I got really curious because the relationship that I left was very tumultuous, it was an abusive relationship. And I had to leave everything I knew, including my home and including friends, circles, and everything. So that was another thing that I had to completely leave and restart from scratch. And it led me to becoming better as a leader becoming better at leaving my practice and going and starting other ventures, like, like a nonprofit, I started to champion women and girls self confidence, because things that I wanted to heal on my own, people wanted to know more about my story. And so I started on the speaking circuit speaking to colleges, universities, lectures, you know, all different avenues of the idea of loss and confidence. And so that's kind of what spearheaded me into the direction of this, you know, transformational speaking, and then also opening up my eyes to more of this kind of investor role. And I needed to create community because again, I left something that was very, you know, toxic, and just, I needed to create recreate a whole community. So I started creating what would be known now is like modern day masterminds, but it was really kind of a way for me to get connected with like minded women, who were also doing amazing things in the world, which got me into investing in female led startups as an angel investor. And that really propelled me into the world of startups visiting San Francisco, going to Stanford for you know, a nonprofit management course, it was literally one course that fully changed my whole trajectory, spending a week, you know, in, at Stanford, and I saw just a whole different way of life of startup entrepreneurs building something out of nothing, many times hedging their bets, many times, they were just a pure visionary. And for me, I noticed being in the medical world, all you knew was your right answers that were memorize regurgitated, you know, no shade on doctors, or dentists or anybody in the professional field. You know, it's, it's amazing. But there was so much more potential in this avenue where you were lauded when you failed your startup not once, twice, even three times. And that was such a huge difference in what I was used to receiving. And I wanted to know more of that. And so I spent a lot of time with startup founders. And that's when, I mean, if you really want to know what was the main impetus of me saying, yes to leaving my practice and selling it, it's when I started to embark on more of myself healing so in that thread and season, I kept saying to saying yes, to more and more new things that I'd never experienced, whether it was conferences, networking events, something like South by Southwest, you know, investor types of meetups and groups, Burning Man was another one. And, you know, really getting into ideas of, you know, different types of healing modalities, alternative alternative types of therapies, like, you know, EFT, tapping, EMDR, psychedelics, plant medicine, and that started my journey into writing my first book, and this idea of the book began because I was so curious at how leaders would make decisions, leaders just, you know, everyday leaders, small business owners to Fortune 500 100, even global leaders. And that's when I realized, I after one of the psychedelic ceremonies, this was at Burning Man, as well as another time that this was the next step was to be unapologetic in pursuing a different way of life. And, and I didn't know what that was gonna look like, I didn't know that it was going to have all of the bells and whistles that it did. Now, I just knew that it couldn't be behind the four walls of my office, you know, you know, helping the the small amount that I could help. In that time, I knew that it was broader, bigger, larger and global in scope. And I knew that I couldn't be at two places at once. And so that was the reckoning for this like poll, and it was this internal poll of like, what do I see myself three years from now? And it's not where I'm at. And that was the the biggest, strongest intuitive Pull. And that's what I really received from that medicine. You know, with plant plant medicine,

Molly Dare 20:04

I love so much of what you're saying, I was just having a conversation with someone about how rare it is in life, that you get to start all over again. And a big one for me was when I got divorced, you know, you get a chance to kind of reinvent, yeah, you get a chance to actually you know, it's a silver lining of a dark cloud is that you do get a chance to start over reinvent yourself, you're forced to find qualities in yourself, you didn't even realize you had and it's kind of liberating, it's almost feels like a phoenix rising from the ashes of this new being, and that you are so strong and capable way more than you thought you were when you're challenged like that, you know, other time when people just pick up and move and they start all over in a new community. And culture is an amazing experience that teaches you so much about people and community and you know, what is really inside you that you don't even realize it's laying dormant until you call upon it. So I love this. So so much. So this journey led you across 45 countries developing research, blending the fields of human behavior, ancient eastern philosophy and therapeutic psychology, how do all those interrelate with inter relate with one another?

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 21:14

Yeah, so I was so curious. And this really kind of had me go back into my own roots, you know, a lot of the a lot of the research that we do, I feel like people say is, you know, me search, right. And you're so interested in discovering parts of yourself. And also, back in my college days, I was a psychology major, you know, and I was so fascinated with human dynamics, I think ever since I was a kid, because of all of the psychology I needed to understand between, you know, the relatives around me and just the gravity of, okay, you know, just the inner knowing that my parents weren't going to be there with me for that long. And, and so, the dynamics coupled with my interest, as you know, not only a nurturer and a community gatherer and a community builder, but also with my roots of my father, being from India, you know, we grew up every, pretty much every weekend, every Sunday, my dad would, you know, be meditating. He was he was Hindu. But he, he had like this essence of Buddhism and Sikhism that he grew up with, there's a certain part of India that he grew up with in the north, that really merged all of these kinds of traditions. And so on the weekends, even though we were little, and we would like make fun of it. And we were just like, run in his room, and he was meditating. And he was chanting these mantras, and he had his, like, mala beads, and he would be chanting, and it would be for hours on end. And we would like, you know, the three little kids would be running around. So I didn't appreciate it as much. But I definitely grew up with that essence. And then, you know, it's interesting that it kind of circles completely back around when you are in that way of redefining, and, you know, reigniting your life, because that's when I started to go back to, you know, South Asia, Southeast Asia, different parts of my lineage, visiting different parts of my ancestry on both my mom's side, my father's side, spending time, in places with shamans, whether it was in Latin America, whether it was in Bali, whether it was, you know, in different parts of the world. And I really wanted to understand from my, of course, you know, left brain, the analytical brain, the research minded brain, what were some of the things that people are doing in the East? And what were some of the things that people were doing in the west and how we can actually combine, you know, all of the different modalities. And what I really found was, you know, kind of the birth, the birthing of what I'd be talking about in my first book, which was called Emotional grit. And basically eight steps to change your world, or transform your thoughts, change your world, and transform your life. And really, you know, I use grit as an acronym. Obviously, grit has been, you know, the through line of my life, the ability to, you know, really stay with when life and things get tough, but my association with grit has really been the acronym to grow, reveal, innovate and transform. And that really gave me the confidence to, you know, put everything together in this way of, you know, the ability to own the stories that you have the stories that you've grown up with, and when you've had some something visceral that's happened or you know, a crossroads a transition in your life, are you able to be open yourself to the awareness of an area of yourself that needs to grow. For myself, I think I've mentioned earlier, I needed to heal a lot of my relationships with men, because they were very much overlapped since I was like a teenager, I didn't know how to be alone. And that was the first part of my own healing. Getting into then the reveal stage and the reveal stage is really what are the things that are going to be revealed to you, when you accept the current state that you are in? So really revealing that, okay, I'm really not that great at relationships, I don't know how to be by myself. How can we retrain this or reframe this? And what does that actually mean? Which then when you are open to it, because that's the scariest part is that reveal stage, we're revealing? Either what we don't know what we're ashamed about what we're guilty about what we're what we needed to hear when we were younger. And so once we are making peace with where we are at now, and this could be even small things like I need to lose weight, I need to tell my boss, I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm done. You know, whatever that is, then we get into the Innovate stage. And the Innovate stage is really, you are committing to change. I mean, obviously, in the startup world, if we're thinking about business, it's it's it's thinking about what are things in the business that you no longer feel aligned or feel call to? What are the things that you're going to put down, that might be scary AF, but that no longer serve you or kind of like what I did in my story is, I knew deeply within that three years from that point, I no longer wanted to be a dentist, there was just no way it was I did not see it in the trajectory. And then kind of going into the T which is transformation, then doing the necessary steps to create or make that action take that action to transform, the grit process.

Molly Dare 27:01

Amazing. I also want to talk about because you say you got rejected from 27 editors? How do you keep going and believing yourself? Because I know there's a lot of people see the who who are trying to publish a book they've got everyone's got a book kind of within them. How does someone keep going and believing yourself when facing rejection, which we all do?

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 27:22

Yes. And this wasn't my first book that I pitched to publishers, I did that also probably like in 2015. And I reject I got rejected by like maybe 11 or 12. But then I was already writing my first book. So I knew that didn't matter what was going to happen emotional grit was going to come out either way. And that's that's then I had published, you know, three, self published. And yes, this whole, I think in the past two years, I was working on another book proposal and really, really around how you know, we can fly forward and use the ability to have audacious resilience. And that was one of the key topics. And I knew that I've already had a track record of success in publishing my own books. And so once you have so, so for anybody who is in the process right now, and pitching your stories, you know, to publishers, know that it has nothing to do with you. You know, six years ago, I probably took it way more to heart, obviously. And knowing what I know now about the publishing world, you have to believe so relentlessly about the vision that you have for your book. It's almost like it reminds me of some of my clients that I actually coached, who were relentless startup founders, like they had probably like less than 1000 bucks in their bank account, needing to make payroll, but they knew that their investment was going to come through one of those investors was going to come through and nine times out of 10. It did, and the times that didn't, they were able to bootstrap, find some other way to go about it, if they really believed in their vision. So for anybody who is like this book needs to come out in the world, well, guess what? Hey, it's 2022 it will, because there's so many ways that you can actually get it out in the world, you know, in that particular way. And if you are looking for a publisher, for me, I was I literally kind of surrendered to the idea. And I said, I know that there's going to be a publisher that is going to be in the right alignment. And many times it's not the right time. Because when we were pitching I was also pregnant with my second child. And I'm like, maybe the universe is just saying it's not the right time because I'm like, I know that this is a solid book. I know that the world needs it. I know that people need me to have what I'm writing so. So having that strong conviction about what you're writing is so important. And also I knew that that you know there there were plenty of books that were also competitors out there. But there were a few elements from what I was going to bring to the table that was different from what already existed. So either way, and even if you have an idea that already exists, well, that's a good thing. Because that that shows that there's market value for it, people who want to actually read that kind of, you know, content, which is great. So that should not deter you in any way. But also, I think it's in this day and age to get a book published, it's really waiting as well to see, you know, is there a publisher that's going to be in the right alignment, because there were some, that at the end of the day, you know, we actually did get into a bidding war. And there were two that I was like, I, don't, I feel like I'd be selling my soul. I don't, I don't know if this is gonna be the right alignment for me. And then it happened that the right publisher stepped into it. And I had kind of like a deeper knowing that it was going to be this publisher all along. And so it ended up being just a magical union for for us and I, anybody who's in that process right now, again, a lot of times it's timing a lot, especially in this, you know, field, it is timing, and trust, your timing, and I was so committed that I was like, You know what, we'll try again in six months. Luckily, I didn't have to try. It was like, I waited another month. And then we were like, Okay, we're back in it. But yeah, you never know, the beauty of closed doors until the closed doors actually happen. Because energetically we're, we're allowing more space for other opportunities to roll in, we just have to be patient, and most of us are not that patient.

Molly Dare 31:50

I love that so much. Because in my my ripe old age of 43, I have learned to trust the timing of my life. And I think it comes with age, it comes with experience where you realize like, oh, that's why it didn't happen in the time, you're so upset. And you're like, I don't understand it. Like I'm supposed to be here. No, you're actually not. And there's something bigger and better ahead for you that you don't even realize is coming yet. And I've learned through many experiences like that to just trust the timing. And it may not make sense in the moment. But it'll make sense in the in the bigger picture. So not only have you published amazing books, which everyone needs to read, you also have launched a podcast, the brave table, what inspired you with the name?

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 32:34

Oh, yes. Yeah, you know, I think that the last few years, many of us were, you know, I feel like globally we in in my community, we have a very global audience, from literally 30 plus countries globally. And so, for me, I knew that we already started to have these types of conversations, when we were locked in our homes, you know, for those first few years, having conversations around our dinner table, and this was, you know, this basically started with with starting to ask different questions that were leaning on the edge of discomfort, but we knew these brave human conversations had to be had. And I think that having a space a container, you know, I call it an oasis, a destination where you can share differing viewpoints, because I would remember that we would have, you know, when we were still having people like one at a time or two at a time, or like four at a time really like those close knit small groups of people coming over and having conversations, it was like, Oh, my goodness, this this stuff, we should like record this because it was getting into all of the juicy, you know, like the the layer beneath the facade, many of us were so much because we're so afraid of being judged or we're so afraid that we're not going to be liked. If we say something else. Or if we were if we you know, speak our truth about something, we're not going to be accepted or we're not going to be you know, we're going to get I don't know, cancelled or whatever the thing is, and, and God forbid you change your mind about something because oh my gosh, then, you know, so I think that it was time to give birth to a place where we could have more of those meaningful conversations exposing you know, things in concepts that I really love like talking about boundaries, boundaries with family members, you know, boundaries from immigrant households, and and even if you're married to you know, somebody who has immigrant family members and, and how the nuances behind that rediscovering yourself and the identity of life after divorce, and how to have conversations with your children about things. I think there's there's so much fruit in that as we navigate You know, this post, you know, this era of the world that we're living in now,

Molly Dare 35:05

you know, you have a caption on one of your photos on Instagram that says, you write being brave doesn't always have to look super big and bold bravery is also in the small, simple actions. And I absolutely loved that. Because I find that to be so true. When when you think of brave people, people think like, oh, I have to do this, like, huge thing. And that was No, it's not. There's a lot of everyday small actions that make you a brave person. And I love that you highlight that.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 35:33

Oh, it's so true. It's so true. I feel like you know, bravery could look like saying no to your girlfriends. And, or, or saying, Actually, I don't know what I want to say about this right now. And respecting the decision of not actually contributing to a conversation or saying, Gosh, I need help. That is, you know, that's the purest form of bravery when we can let other people into the discomfort that we're sitting in.

Molly Dare 36:04

Absolutely. So let's make sure we discuss about what you're doing now. You founded the Dharma Coaching Institute. Tell us a little bit about that.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 36:12

Yeah. So it is, mean, since the Great resignation, which I feel like everyone has been talking about the time, you know, the greatest time in history where this post pandemic era has given birth to people leaving their jobs at such a great rate. And, you know, this era of confusion of wanting to start their own businesses and launch their own endeavors. Yet, there hasn't been people to really Usher these folks in, that are looking for a new way of living, they're looking to really pursue their dharma Dharma just means truth, in Sanskrit, and so I've, you know, partnered up with some other amazing geniuses, including my co founders, and we all you know, really wanted to bring something to the table that was meaningful, and that would help support this new generation of people who are leaving the workforce, perhaps starting new careers, and providing them with career coaching in a way that's, you know, coming back to themselves. So becoming a Dharma certified coach, as well as a sole purpose coach. So this is our coach trading platform. Also, people have been joining it, even if they don't want to become a coach because it's become such a central point of the journey back to yourself, you know, you left a relationship I wish I had this when I left my marriage, you know, just embarking on feminine wisdom and getting back into your body and really trusting your intuition and knowing what your intuition looks like and being able to say, you know, really understand where you feel discomfort or dis ease in your body. And so we have a lot of this Easter meets Western practices. And also yes, there is a component where if you wanted to take it and transform it and you know, have a training where it becomes part of your career. There is a certification part of that as well.

Molly Dare 38:13

So amazing. Where is the best place for people to follow you learn more about you find your books?

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 38:20

Yes. So just @NeetaBhushan, I am always there on IG and it's the same on Tik Tok but yes.

Molly Dare 38:29

Oh, good. You're on Tik Tok, too. I just got into that as well.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 38:33

I'm a little late bloomer, but yeah, you'll you'll mostly find me on on IG.

Molly Dare 38:38

I've been saying for the past few weeks that I feel like everybody should be dating all the platforms right now. And just like checking them out, seeing what works for you. What does bring out, right?

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 38:49

Right? They bring Different things.

Molly Dare 38:51

I'm like, you know, to talk to my funny boyfriend. That makes me a little bit. You'll have a great time with me make me laugh, right? They each have like a different kind of personality.

Dr. Neeta Bhushan 38:59

Oh, that's good. Yeah, that is true.

Molly Dare 39:03

Oh my gosh, thank you so much for joining me today and inspiring us to live a more brave life. And I really encourage everyone who's listening today to definitely check her out on socials because I really really believe so passionately that you need to be following people who are inspirational and motivational. It does help you pursue your life of passion. And thank you everyone for listening in and see you next week with another powerful episode

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